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Tom explains the difference between commercially sold Walther PP and PPK pistols, and military issued PP and PPK pistols. A very helpful & educational video for those who want to learn more about these historic WW2 weapons.
Walther PPs and PPKs
Hey, guys, I have another educational video for you today. But first, check this out. You'll notice I don't have the boring pullover. I now have the classy button-down. We hired a designer to come up with these. Actually, Randy, where do we get these? Was at Wal-Mart. But yeah, I got I upgraded my shirt. Hope you like it. Make sure you push the like button so I can wear it again. I'm going do an educational video today. And this goes along with our theme of Walthers, Walther PPs and PPKs, which are pre 1946. So yesterday I got an email from Tim. You'll notice I'm still on AOL. That means I'm very, very old. There's only two people in the country, probably one guy watching this and me.
Reichsbank Walther PP Guns This gun is extremely early. If you look at the serial number, you'll see it is 7 5 O 1 3 7. They started numbering them in 1929 at seven hundred and fifty thousand. The Walther PPK and PPK/S pistols affected were made by Smith & Wesson from March 21, 2002 to February 3, 2009 with the following serial numbers: 0010BAB – 9999BAB 0000BAC – 9999BAC 0000BAD – 9999BAD 0000BAE – 9999BAE 0000BAF – 9999BAF 0000BAH – 9999BAH 0000BAJ – 9999BAJ 0000BAK – 9999BAK 0000BAL – 5313BAL 0000BAM – 1320BAM 0000LTD – 0499LTD 0001PPK – 1500PPK 0026REP – 0219REP 0001WLE – 0459WLE If you own a Walther PPK or PPK/S made during this time period and it. Reichsbank Walther PP Guns. This gun is extremely early. If you look at the serial number, you'll see it is 7 5 O 1 3 7. They started numbering them in 1929 at seven hundred and fifty thousand. So, this gun was the one hundred and thirty-seventh gun coming out of the factory. They had an order from a bank, we don't know which bank. S1598xx test fired on 6/24/1999. From 1978 to 1999, USA Walther PPK/S were manufactured by Ranger Manufacturing in Gadsden Alabama and distributed by Interarms. S prefix serial number, indicates an Interarms, 'Under License of', 'Made in USA' (Ranger Mfg) Stainless PPK/s in.380. edited to update serial numbers. To fill the need for performance in a concealable package, Walther broke the mold of pocket pistols and full-size military pistols to bring undercover officers a more-practical and reliable option, the PPK. It is chambered in.380 ACP, the PPK provides all the power needed in a self-defense pistol without sacrificing on critical functionalities.
German Walther Ppk Serial Numbers
PP or PPK Which is better for me?
Tim asked me this question which I get asked fairly often. I want to buy one PP or PPK and I'm not sure what to get. I could get a commercial, but I'd really like a military-issued gun. How do I know the difference? Great question, Tim!And here's your answer.
The vast majority of Walther PPs and PPKs were commercial and here's where it gets confusing. In 1940 actually, end of thirty-nine, early forty, the Nazis decided to dress up their proof marks, and so they took the crown N proof mark and turned it into an eagle N proof mark. So, during the war, all of the guns PPs and PPKs are going to have an eagle N on the slide. The ejection port and then a lot of people miss this one. You'll see one here on the end of the barrel. so that eagle N looks a lot like a Nazi eagle. And therefore, mistakenly, a lot of people say, oh, this one went to the Nazi military. It didn't. That's a commercial proof of firing proof. All of them were test-fired, inspected and hit with an eagle N stamp. However, some of them did go to the military and it has a completely separate marking, which I'm going to show you in a minute. But let me talk a little bit more about the commercial guns.
Commercial Guns: Lugers, P-38, PP, PPK
In the German army, unlike the American army, it was not uncommon for an officer to buy their own pistol. I think it goes back to WWI, and between the wars, they actually didn't have a lot of money. There is a lot of budget cuts and so it might take a while to be able to get a sidearm. So, a lot of the officers who came from the usually the more upper-class people would often go out and buy their own guns. So, the average citizen just couldn't walk into a store and buy a gun. You had to know somebody or be somebody in order to get a gun. Obviously, German officers were somebody in Germany and they could go and buy their own pistol. What you'll notice in period photos that most of the line troops, meaning the grunt soldiers they either carry to P-38 or a Luger and they always say the smaller the gun, the higher the rank. The officers tend to have the smaller guns and they liked the PP and the PPK. Also, we know they carried Sauers and HSC’s pistols of that size, but the most popular by far was the Walther PP and the PPK. So, some of the commercial guns did go to the military, but they were private purchase and there's no way for us to prove where it went. But the German army did order guns and they were specially marked.
Military Walther Pistols: Waffen Proofs Military Issues or Not?
So, what I'd like to do is take a look at what how do we know it's military issued, the one unique feature that you'll find is the Waffen proof. Now, this started out as an eagle 3 5 9 proof and then went to a Waffen 3 5 9 proof. I'm going to show you these proof marks by talking about the different variations now in every video. Sometimes people say you don't give enough detail and other people say way too much detail. You bored me to death. So, what I've done is I put together a cheat-sheet which you can get from us by going go to our Website or just email us at the address below and ask us for this and we'll email this over to you. You can also do a quick screenshot if that helps. For those of you who like the detail, this will go over all of the serial numbers for each variation.
Military PPK’s: First Variation
The first variation is in Eagle 3 5 9, now 3 5 9 was the inspector approved for the Walther factory. You'll see that on all the Walther weapons, they'll have an eagle or a Waffen Eagle 3 5 9. This is the first variation. High polished finish comes in a specific Sierra range. It was issued to the military as evidenced by the Waffen proofs. These are on the frame in the slide and also a few. You'll find the slide Waffen proof on the tang. I don't have one to show you, but right here is the tang right on the end. Sometimes they'll be a stamp. Typically, they're stamped here in here. So, this is the first variation because it's Eagle 3 5 9.
Military PPK’s: Second Variation
Now, let's talk about this second variation, which is also high polish. But now we've moved to an Waffen Eagle 3 5 9, again, this is an inspector proof. Just like in the American factories, the inspectors would put their initials. This was kind of like your initial, but it was an inspector proof with 3 5 9, meaning Walther factory. This is a high polish finish. We still have the brown grip. Beautiful looking gun. The finish on this is exactly like the commercial guns. It wasn't later until later mid war to late war, they deteriorated the finish to adult finish. We're going to see that in a minute.
Now, in a previous video, I said, for those of you who are sharp, you'll remember this. I said, if you ever see a numbered magazine, whether it's on the spine or the side or the bottom. It was a special contract. So, this Waffen, 3 5 9 has two matching magazines. Must be for a special purpose and I won't bore you with the detail, but we have evidence from downed aircraft, but also from going to some of the Luftwaffe bases. We find these were sent to the Luftwaffe. This is a Luftwaffe marked holster with two matching mags. So, we know that this went to the Luftwaffe. And they do fall within a specific serial range. Again, the cheat sheet will go over that for you.
Military PPK’s: Third Variation
The third variation is Waffen 3 5 9, but no matching magazine, so, therefore, it's still the high polished finish. It's a new serial range and you can take a look at that a little bit later. But these went to the German army.
Military PPK’s: Fourth Variation
And the final variation, 4th variation, they fall in the late war range and you'll see this as more of a dull finish, it also has the black grip that you won't find a matching magazine, but it's Waffen 3 5 9. Let's just compare it to the high polished finish. You can see the difference with the dull military, 4th contract and then the early or third contract high polished finish.
Military PP’s: First Variation
Still on the military issued PPs, very similar, it'll sound a little repetitive Eagle 3 5 9 high polished finish just as before. You will not find numbered mag in it on the sheet. It goes over the Serial-Ranges, if you want to look that up, it will give you that information.
Military PP’s: Second Variation
The second variation is a new variation. This is gonna throw you a curveball. The only ones are known to be 9 MM. This is a solid block. It was an order for the Luftwaffe and again, we know that from it, not from factory records, they were destroyed. But when you go to the Luftwaffe bases, you'll find that there was a contract for nine-millimeter. See the bigger diameter it is Waffen 3 5 9 proof and special contract matching number magazine. These were originally issued to a similar holster; would that would be Luftwaffe mark and instead of PPK ink stamp it will say PP and it would have come with two matching magazines. If you find one of those. Let me know. Send me the serial number. I'll put it in our database. It's a very rare 9-millimeter Luftwaffe issued PPs
Military PP’s: Third Variation
The third variation, we have the serial-range, but it is also a Luftwaffe contract. But now it's seven-point six-five. So, it's exactly like the nine-millimeter. It comes in a specific range. It comes with a matching magazine numbered on the bottom and it's Waffen three, five, nine. You'll notice this still has the high polished finish. It also has the serial number on the slide, which is unique for this subcontract.
Military PP’s: Fourth Variation
This is a duller finish. So, this is a fourth variation. It went to the military. This one has a unique reddish grip for some strange reason during this serial range, they experimented with the color, that grip. Evidently, they didn't like it because they went back to the brown suit for a very brief period of time. It has a reddish looking grip. In fact, this whole gun has like a reddish hue, which is the way they mixed and mixed the bluing solution and also the preparation of the metal. You'll see those on Walther products, such as the P-38 and other guns. But this one is Waffen 3 5 9 proofed. You will not find a matching magazine. So, we assume this did not go to the Luftwaffe. But rather the German army.
Walther Ppk Serial Number Wf 7720
Military PP’s: Fifth Variation
This is also a Waffen3 5 9. You'll see the duller finished, but this one now has a wooden grip. They were running out of petroleum products. So, for a period of time, they experimented with wooden grips. This would have been about 1944. Now it still has the slide legend. You can see the slide legend in there and no matching mag. But these could fall into a certain range. And then I apologize in advance. I don't, this is not Waffen proofed but they did make these Waffen proofed. I just want to just show you that by the end of the war 1945, they actually didn't even bother putting you see this slide legend. They're very faint. Here the slide legend is removed and if you look at the reverse, all they did was put the A.C. stamp, which was the factory code for Walther.
So, the last variation 1945 would have a Waffen stamp here and here and as I said, I do have a 1945 PP. In fact, this one is missing the proof marks, which means it was never issued. It was in the factory at the end of the war, but they do have no slide legend AC marked, with Waffen stamp, which would be the final variation.
Bonus:
Cheat Sheet
Walther Ppk Serial Number Wf 61
So that's a really quick overview. If you want more information, you can go to the cheat-sheet. Take a look at that.
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They are German pistols that have a blowback design function and are semi-automatic pistols, originally developed by the German arms manufacturer Carl Walther GmbH Sportwaffen.
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Walther PPK that is NSKK marked with original holster
This is an exceptional example of an all original Nazi NSKK Walther PP pistol rig. These pistols were issued to officers in the National Sozialistisches Kraftfahr Korps (National Socialist Transport Corps), and based on the serial number listings in the book “Walther Models PP and PPK 1929 – 1945” (Blue cover) by James L. Rankin, this pistol falls into the correct serial number range for that model. The left side of the slide has the standard factory markings of: “Walther” inside a banner followed by the two-line address and caliber markings/”Mod.PP” followed by the slightly larger “NSKK” inside a banner over the Nazi eagle holding a swastika. The matching last three digits of the serial number is correctly scribed inside the slide. The chamber, muzzle and slide are correctly marked with “Crown/ N” proofs. It is fitted with the original two-piece black plastic, checkered grips with Walther banners on the top. It is complete with one original Walther/PP marked magazine with the black plastic finger base plate. This excellent pistol is complete with an exceptional, Nazi issue, black leather, “N.S.K.K.” marked holster. The holster is correctly stamped with a large and deeply struck “N.S.K.K./Nazi Eagle” at the top of the holster flap with the correct “D.R.G.M./Cross Rifles/Akah” markings for Albrecht Kind. This is a very rare holster in this condition.
Walther PPK Condition Statement
Excellent plus with 98% of the original high polish blue finish overall and extremely minor edge high spot wear with clear sharp markings to include the “NSKK” markings on the slide. 95% plus of the original niter blue remains on the safety. The grips are also in excellent condition. The holster is also in excellent condition with a very nice, clear and deeply stamped “NSKK” mark on the front flap. The holster retains 98% of its original black color overall with only minor scuffing on the toe, the lower edge of the magazine pouch and on the back of the holster on the belt loop. A really extraordinary high condition NSKK marked Walther PP pistol rig.
Another example of from the September 2018 Firearms Auction
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Walther PPK Party Leader Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig
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This is an early production Walther Party Leader Model PPK pistol rig. This PPK pistol rig has the Political Leader Party grips, an original Party Leader brown leather holster and brown leather belt. These PPKs fitted with the Party Leader type grips were officially known as the “Honor Weapon of the Political Leaders” as they were usually presented to high ranking Nazi officers for meritorious service to the Party. NSDAP Party Leader grips are found on Walther PPKs in two serial number ranges; 850,000 to 935,000 and again in the “174,000K to 234,965K” range. Which indicates that this example was produced early on in the second serial number block. The grips themselves are molded from a mottled-brown plastic material that has the distinctive large Nazi Eagle clutching a Swastika encircled by a wreath at the top on both sides with the balance of the grip having impressed checkering. This example has the standard two-line factory markings of the Walther Banner, factory legend, caliber and model designation. The pistol is a pre-war commercial model with the “Crown/N” proofmarks on the slide, chamber area and front end of the barrel. The pistol has a 60 degree safety lever, cartridge indicator pin and lanyard loop on the bottom of the frame. The serial number is marked on the right side of the frame with the last three digits (657) correctly scratched inside the slide. It comes with two original Walther marked blued magazines, one with a matching mottled brown plastic extended finger rest and the other a flat base. As noted, this scarce pistol comes with an original Party Leader brown leather holster that is stamped with the large Nazi Eagle on the front flap. The lower front flap is stamped, “D.R.G.M./Crossed Rifles/Akah”. It also comes with a unmarked brown Party Leader type leather dress belt.
Walther PPK Condition Statement:
Very fine with 98% of the blue finish still remaining overall with blue loss on the front edges of the slide. The grips are in fine condition with some slight warpage on the top and lower front edges. There is a minor scratch on the upper right side of the grip. The holster is in good condition with a dark brown leather surface with a faint Nazi Eagle on the front flat with clear distinct maker’s marks on the lower front flap. The stitching is tight. There is some age cracking and slightly heavier scuffing of the leather on the lower front edge of the magazine pouch. The belt is in very fine condition. A very nice looking and highly desirable early Nazi Party Leader Walther PPK rig.